Comments on: Take the hit to make the play http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:09:50 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kirstente http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8471 Kirstente Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:40:13 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8471 Thank you for this post, and the original post at Feministe. I don't think it's possible to moderate a thread like that 'perfectly' and you did a damned good job. Thank you for this post, and the original post at Feministe. I don’t think it’s possible to moderate a thread like that ‘perfectly’ and you did a damned good job.

]]> By: Jemima Aslana http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8433 Jemima Aslana Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:26:25 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8433 Amen! I wish spoons were transferable, but alas, they're not. Not that I could help you much in that department. I have a mental disability and thus my lack of spoons result in not getting to the doctor, not getting to the dentist, not demanding my rights in most cases, and I continuously get the question: "Why don't you just..." Well, the answer is "Because I can't!" and it'll continue to be that, but abled people can't accept that answer because to them it's not hard to pick up the phone and call someone, or to go out and do some grocery-shopping. Calling someone, especially someone I don't know personally, can take up an entire day's spoons for human interaction, and making that one phonecall can completely shut down my already limited ability to communicate with my boo, my co-workers, my family, my neighbours - smart? Not so. I wish we could all keep fighting the fight constantly. But resources are frighteningly limited, be they physical or mental - or both. Panda = cuddly! :D Amen! I wish spoons were transferable, but alas, they’re not. Not that I could help you much in that department. I have a mental disability and thus my lack of spoons result in not getting to the doctor, not getting to the dentist, not demanding my rights in most cases, and I continuously get the question: “Why don’t you just…” Well, the answer is “Because I can’t!” and it’ll continue to be that, but abled people can’t accept that answer because to them it’s not hard to pick up the phone and call someone, or to go out and do some grocery-shopping. Calling someone, especially someone I don’t know personally, can take up an entire day’s spoons for human interaction, and making that one phonecall can completely shut down my already limited ability to communicate with my boo, my co-workers, my family, my neighbours – smart? Not so.

I wish we could all keep fighting the fight constantly. But resources are frighteningly limited, be they physical or mental – or both.

Panda = cuddly! :D

]]> By: chava http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8428 chava Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:46:44 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8428 Blech. I tried to discuss the "right to anger" issue with the husband today after he objected to Shapely Prose because Kate "uses too many curse words." Which we all know make people Not Take You Seriously and show Poor Control of the English Language. The husband is an academic, so your comment about how you wanted to discuss "academically" really brought it home to me. There are things that we are allowed to be upset about. We should be allowed to be upset about them and still have others take us seriously. And I remain unconvinced that being "nice" and reasonable in the face of utter stupidity accomplishes much. In fact, I think it re-legitimizes certain POV as valid *which should not be granted that respect.* Ahhh...I had more thoughts but my less bright feline has managed to tangle himself in his new toy. I liked the post, my sympathies for the SNAFU, and yes, pandas are cute. Blech.

I tried to discuss the “right to anger” issue with the husband today after he objected to Shapely Prose because Kate “uses too many curse words.” Which we all know make people Not Take You Seriously and show Poor Control of the English Language.

The husband is an academic, so your comment about how you wanted to discuss “academically” really brought it home to me. There are things that we are allowed to be upset about. We should be allowed to be upset about them and still have others take us seriously. And I remain unconvinced that being “nice” and reasonable in the face of utter stupidity accomplishes much.

In fact, I think it re-legitimizes certain POV as valid *which should not be granted that respect.*

Ahhh…I had more thoughts but my less bright feline has managed to tangle himself in his new toy. I liked the post, my sympathies for the SNAFU, and yes, pandas are cute.

]]> By: Steph http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8207 Steph Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:46:57 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8207 I found your blog through Feministe, and I just wanted to say that I admire the courage it takes for you to write about your experiences, and particularly to talk about them on a large blog like Feministe (I'm going to be guest blogging there later this month, and I'm pretty nervous myself!). I've really been enjoying your posts so far and was really horrified by the outright disrespectful and dismissive attitudes of some of the commenters. I avoid talking about my depression/anxiety on my own blog because I am afraid of these kinds of people (not a particularly noble approach, I agree.). Maybe someday I'll have the guts to add posts about mental disabilities. In any case, I don't often comment on posts unless I feel I have something more substantial to add to the discussion that "great post," but I've been reading and enjoying. I don't know if this comment helps at all, but I just wanted to say that I thought you were doing a great job in adverse circumstances. I found your blog through Feministe, and I just wanted to say that I admire the courage it takes for you to write about your experiences, and particularly to talk about them on a large blog like Feministe (I’m going to be guest blogging there later this month, and I’m pretty nervous myself!). I’ve really been enjoying your posts so far and was really horrified by the outright disrespectful and dismissive attitudes of some of the commenters. I avoid talking about my depression/anxiety on my own blog because I am afraid of these kinds of people (not a particularly noble approach, I agree.). Maybe someday I’ll have the guts to add posts about mental disabilities.

In any case, I don’t often comment on posts unless I feel I have something more substantial to add to the discussion that “great post,” but I’ve been reading and enjoying. I don’t know if this comment helps at all, but I just wanted to say that I thought you were doing a great job in adverse circumstances.

]]> By: sophiefair http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8190 sophiefair Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:37:18 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8190 i read that whole thread, but did not comment as it looked like the comments were already closed when i got there. if anything, i thought you were initially too nice to the privileged asshats on that thread who simply don't get it. i was horrified at some of the things that were said to you -- and i only saw the pandas, instead of that disgusting insinuation that you are an addict. your writing has been such a huge help and comfort to me as i learn to live with my fibro -- i was diagnosed last spring, but my doctor doesn't seem to want to do much beyond medicating me. i have learned so much (personally and politically!) from reading your blog, and am priming myself to take a more active role in my own care, thanks to you. so thank you amandaw. and fuck those fuckers that think they know better. i have been stunned by the difficulties of living with fibro, but even before my diagnosis, i don't think there is anyway that i could have kept my head THAT far up my ass when a PWD was talking about hir experiences. i read that whole thread, but did not comment as it looked like the comments were already closed when i got there. if anything, i thought you were initially too nice to the privileged asshats on that thread who simply don’t get it. i was horrified at some of the things that were said to you — and i only saw the pandas, instead of that disgusting insinuation that you are an addict.

your writing has been such a huge help and comfort to me as i learn to live with my fibro — i was diagnosed last spring, but my doctor doesn’t seem to want to do much beyond medicating me. i have learned so much (personally and politically!) from reading your blog, and am priming myself to take a more active role in my own care, thanks to you.

so thank you amandaw. and fuck those fuckers that think they know better. i have been stunned by the difficulties of living with fibro, but even before my diagnosis, i don’t think there is anyway that i could have kept my head THAT far up my ass when a PWD was talking about hir experiences.

]]> By: Nance http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8156 Nance Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:01:33 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8156 Thank you. Thank you.

]]> By: Cheryl http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8141 Cheryl Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:49:34 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8141 My mind has certainly been opened by what you've written here (and at Feministe). I was very excited to see you guest-posting over at Feministe, and I'm disappointed that those able-bodied bundles of privilege in the comments thread couldn't keep their mouths shut long enough to learn from what you had to say. You got other-ed by a group of people who really should know better. I'm ashamed that if not for the chance of me happening across your blog a few months ago, that I'd be as clueless as them. My mind has certainly been opened by what you’ve written here (and at Feministe). I was very excited to see you guest-posting over at Feministe, and I’m disappointed that those able-bodied bundles of privilege in the comments thread couldn’t keep their mouths shut long enough to learn from what you had to say.

You got other-ed by a group of people who really should know better. I’m ashamed that if not for the chance of me happening across your blog a few months ago, that I’d be as clueless as them.

]]> By: Deborah http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8129 Deborah Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:31:57 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8129 <i>My writing is, as a commenter described at one point, is a messy marriage of personal and political.</i> D'oh! The personal <i>is</i> political. That is such a basic lesson that we learned from the women who were writing in the fifties and sixties. I read your initial post, but didn't stick around for the thread - I'm sorry. After stuffing something up somewhere else a few months ago, I've been trying hard to STFU and listen with PWD speak, and to stay out of the way. I will try harder to be there in future. Keep the anger. It's a force for good. My writing is, as a commenter described at one point, is a messy marriage of personal and political.

D’oh! The personal is political. That is such a basic lesson that we learned from the women who were writing in the fifties and sixties.

I read your initial post, but didn’t stick around for the thread – I’m sorry. After stuffing something up somewhere else a few months ago, I’ve been trying hard to STFU and listen with PWD speak, and to stay out of the way. I will try harder to be there in future.

Keep the anger. It’s a force for good.

]]> By: meloukhia http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8128 meloukhia Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:16:57 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8128 Well, my temporarily able-bodied behind was totally horrified at what happened in that thread, especially because I found your original post so informative and helpful. I am really sorry to hear that your guest posting at Feministe has been so stressful for you, because I think you opened a lot of minds. And, personally, I think that anger can be a very useful and very powerful force, especially when you are being silenced and marginalized by people with privilege who are apparently completely blind to it. Well, my temporarily able-bodied behind was totally horrified at what happened in that thread, especially because I found your original post so informative and helpful. I am really sorry to hear that your guest posting at Feministe has been so stressful for you, because I think you opened a lot of minds.

And, personally, I think that anger can be a very useful and very powerful force, especially when you are being silenced and marginalized by people with privilege who are apparently completely blind to it.

]]> By: Feminism Gone Wild - imago http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8126 Feminism Gone Wild - imago Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:02:44 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8126 [...] I think it is important to understand where she is coming from.  The post can be found at http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html. [...] [...] I think it is important to understand where she is coming from.  The post can be found at http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html. [...]

]]> By: annaham http://threeriversblog.com/2009/07/take-the-hit-to-make-the-play.html#comment-8125 annaham Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:50:18 +0000 http://threeriversblog.com/?p=491#comment-8125 I am always 110% behind you, my friend. So many of us appreciate what you are doing and how you handle things, and it is disgraceful that that is shouted down by people who insist that we be "rational" and not angry. I am always 110% behind you, my friend.

So many of us appreciate what you are doing and how you handle things, and it is disgraceful that that is shouted down by people who insist that we be “rational” and not angry.

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